Lalaine released: "Skizogrammes (Bibliophane. Daniel Radford), in the collection" Trace
directed by David Reinharc
Interview by David Reinharc
We were all present at the ceremony of Yom Hatsmaout the Synagogue de la Victoire. The synagogue, dressed for the occasion suits color light of Israel, has hosted personalities including Jewish accompanied by Francis Lalanne who sang Israeli songs.
great opportunity to experience this mountebank studious artist with multiple facets that we must side with the greatest. For
Francis Lalanne, is not just a showman, but also and primarily a poet who does not dare say airs but without any cynicism, what he thinks is right.
Whether or not to be surprised by his long hair, his white shirt notched his side pushers, it is clear that it remains itself, ie, a great dreamer in a complex world in his own way, it helps us to decode.
David Reinharc: Singer, songwriter, actor, film producer, clown and juggler, glass blower, series editor, poet, writer, entrepreneur and active citizen: How do I present to you, Francis Lalanne?
Francis Lalanne: Poet. Insofar as I am acting in the direction of my imagination. Poet, ie both the doer and he who creates. Poetry is the Create Action. That sums up my life I Creager.
DR: Would you "créactionnaire?
FL: I am a créacteur.
DR. : Your presence at the Synagogue de la Victoire at the ceremony of Yom Ha'atzmaut, editing a book in a publishing house run by the editor, writer and Rabbi Daniel Radford: this approximation to Israel and Judaism come from by far, something buried in you long or is it cyclical?
FL: One day I arrived in Israel to make a TV show, I had to stay two days and I stayed two months.
It was a thunderbolt, a revelation.
I learned about this country, to love and I learned to know and love these people so much that I felt to be a part.
It was for me a sort of obvious: not something I thought about it but where I reflected and projected.
Yes, I had this feeling of belonging to this people, this community of ideas, his world view in which I found mine.
And it happens that when I came on this earth, I was unable to have children with the woman of my life. I went to the Kotel, I prayed. Nine months later I had a baby and other children followed
... For more than five years, I was told that there was no solution, I asked God to the Western Wall he sends me a child nine months later, yes, I was a father. Or was it a
coincidence, or it is a resonance: between, suddenly, I on land and part of me in heaven, guarded by angels.
There were too many coincidences and incidents in my meeting with Israel that I am not overwhelmed by an infinite love for this land and the people who inhabit it.
a time when a new wave of anti-Semitism is ravaging the world, who increasingly found a mask and pretext "humanist" of Zionism, it is essential to show my sympathy and my love of Israel and Jews around the world.
silence today is worse than a confession. Keeping quiet about this new form of persecution of the Jewish people is a way of condoning.
For my attachment to Israel, I refuse, for my part, of the bond. I view very openly and my sympathy and my love for Israel.
DR: You wrote a piece recounting the letters of denunciation during the Occupation.
Silence, tell you, is worse than a confession: as now, do not resist the Zionist cursers, the propagandists of comfortable certainties, is not it behave as a collaborator?
FL: I'm not at war against the Palestinians or against those who support their cause.
I think these people are wrong enemy. Their main enemy is themselves.
I think the strength of Israel is to be able to not be the enemy of his enemy. We must put an end to this war and only Israel is capable of. Because Israel has more maturity in this conflict that those who today claim its destruction and its eradication position completely immature.
DR: The only solution then it is unilateralist?
FL: I am not for unilateral withdrawal under current conditions. When
duels against someone, not to destroy but to save him from his own violence.
There are certainly exogenous to take measures to ensure the safety of the people of Israel but, also, to develop a discourse of openness towards his enemies. For
who benefits? Neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians but to the economic powers that have an interest in preventing a conflict this territory to organize themselves to be competitive with those that dominate the economic market today.
DR: Is it mostly does not benefit the Arab governments to crystallize on the Israeli-Palestinian frustration and discontent of their people?
FL: This to me is a result of alliances that benefit those who dominate the economy.
Arab countries that are in this configuration there are countries which, coincidentally, have a non-aggression pacts and military cooperation with the United States. And who willingly abandoned oil wells and the direction of OPEC to Bush.
When Mr. Bush went to war against Saddam Hussein, it is strange at the end of the war, he signed a nonaggression pact with him. Why sign a nonaggression pact with the one who came to deliver you? In this pact, it is stipulated that the U.S. military will leave oil on all databases. However, it is not military but they left oil technicians. Therefore, at the slightest touch of Trafalgar, all oil wells fell to the United States.
forces that dominate the market Economic and now want to impose their law in the world have an interest in Jews and Arabs can not agree.
For me, the solution to this conflict is neither philosophical nor religious nor political but economic.
Arabs must realize that by joining together with the Jews, they will become the largest economy in the world.
If this realization takes place, it's the end of the conflict.
DR: This idyllic vision she does not ignore the betrayal by their mission of Arab intellectuals, the ones who chose to flatter detestation Israel presented as evil entity rather than fighting?
FL: I am simply saying that Israel must remain braced on its borders, refuses to abandon elements of its sovereignty to the Palestinians in exchange for nothing. Yes, in front, there is always, implicitly, the objective of eradicating Israel.
First, Israel must consolidate its national sovereignty, holds the safety of its inhabitants, on the other hand, should turn to his enemies as friends. And try initiate a dialogue turned to a partnership project economically.
DR: So you are advocating a fusion of peoples.
When a couple does not agree, the best solution is it not rather the separation?
FL: This is not a merger but that it is an agreement.
And we can not base an agreement on the proposed elimination of the two parties. That is why Israel must strengthen the security of its nationals for be a part physically able to get along with each other.
The land belongs to those who have grown, those trees were pushed over. We want with political and religious views have us believe that there is a political potentiality that existed before, we believe that those who cultivated the land do not own. It is not possible.
is introduced logical reasoning into a mathematical truth.
I mean, the reality today is not the logical reasoning of a Jew or a Palestinian. What the Israelis that Israel is Today, it is this mathematical truth: this country was established, fertilized, built by people of Jewish history who gave the keys of this territory, and who have been growing trees in the desert .
In the name of objectivity, Israel must remain with those who developed, produced, created this state.
To achieve peace, we must at some point that one party has enough experience, intelligence, positivity, strength and courage to find the words and ideas that one can not find.
And if I have faith in Israel if I express my love for this land, because I think he has that strength, that intelligence, courage and maturity, experience of persecution which gives this self-preservation and sense of diplomacy and the other.
I think in any form of political reasoning, there is a soul and body. It must come to consolidate Israel's sovereignty by preventing what is politically designed to challenge the sovereignty and at the same time, find the path to those who want to destroy that sovereignty.
The path I propose is because economic thinking on the theme philosophical, religious and political, there were too many misunderstandings, blood and war.
The solution will come when the leaders of these states understand that conflicting uses the conflict in question to take away their market leadership that should be theirs.
DR: You were involved in a campaign of solidarity with the people of Darfur.
I read that you call the American intervention in Iraq a "crime against humanity"!
regard to Darfur, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes racist genocidal intent, would you describe U.S. intervention as "neocolonial" or criminal?
FL: Yes, if it's American. No, if it meets the concert of nations.
Today the government of the United States presents itself as the state that rules the world, who has the right to violate the agreements between nations. Even if he is right
in an intervention, it is wrong to reason.
I'm not saying that we should not intervene in Darfur, but if it is the U.S. involved in Darfur without the concert of nations is, in any Clearly, a company policy.
DR: Can not find they have difficulty, the "concert of nations", to take resolutions that can be rapidly translated into reality?
FL: No, there was, for example, proposals on Iraq.
We can not believe today in the cleanliness of the intentions of the government of the United States.
DR: Darfur, always, a war that was five to one hundred times more deaths than the Arab-Israeli conflict : How do you deal with the reporting of crimes against humanity of black civilians in Darfur, I found your name, Patrick Bruel, but not that of Dieudonne?
FL: Dieudonne, I do not understand what he does, what he says.
I am sorry for him to be in this state there.
I think this guy has a personal problem that I can not identify and would like to extend to humanity. But I think it will not make it, in any case, it is hoped.
DR: I've interviewed as a concerned citizen. Let me now turn to the poet ...
FL: For all the questions you asked, I tried to build pictures to explain things.
Is it my role, really? I am not a politician, I am a man of poetry.
I have an ideal vision of humanity and I was naive enough to believe that either the intelligence to believe I do not think the simplicity is the opposite of intelligence, my ideal vision will come true one day .
My role is to say without political bias, but with poetry. And today, there is a bias against Israel which is the indictment of humanity.
I do not take part against the Palestinians, I just think that men who absolutely refuse the idea of agreeing with other men are wrong.
In the speech of Israel, there is always a lot of humanity.
DR: You get out a book of poetry as a Pantoum. What
of Pantoum?
FL: It is a kind of intimate samba, dance backwards which creates a form of pleasure in slow repetition.
We're in a world that is coming to schizophrenia, ie the difficulty to situate its own limitations.
Suddenly, in confronting this situation, it can also reverse: taking a form impossible to draw the line is also giving shape to the formless.
I faced it in writing this book, not destroy my demon, but tame it, domesticate it.
What I tried to do is tame, control, channel my demon.
DR: As in Rimbaud's formula: "I is another"?
FL: Yeah. When Rimbaud said: "I is another," he talks about what I say on pantoum and duality.
This demon I have spoken of controlling Goethe is also giving free rein to dialogue with the angel.
I managed to avoid total disruption of my mind by practicing pantoum, which is a form of expression contained and controlled poetics of schizophrenia.
DR: Did you write this book for not going insane?
FL: In this case, not to sink into my madness.
Madness is an extraordinary ocean. You can swim in and drown.
I write to swim in this ocean and to avoid drowning.
DR: Your album "Reptiles" comes out: do you feel more comfortable in the rytmn'blues in world music or Groove?
FL: I feel at ease as soon as a form of music is expressed in a natural way.
I'm open to all forms of music but in each genre, there are places where I feel it's natural - or not - for me.
In this album, I am enriched by meeting people who came from another musical universe than me.
our differences, we have a richness and not a conflict. That's how I see the relationship one day between Jews and Arabs.
DR: Would you sing in Israel?
FL: Absolutely. I dream of that!
interview published in Israel Magazine No. 66
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