Jean-Pierre Brard, former mayor of Montreuil, third city of Ile de France is also member, Communist and Republican Vice-Chairperson of friendship between France and Israel. This man
atypical, which has created a climate of trust in one of the few suburbs in relatively preserved urban violence November 2005, is a friend of Israel and Jews.
He just name a street named Alfred Dreyfus was granted a long lease to the community of 100m 2 , Montreuil paired with an Israeli city. And do not hesitate to declare that the vulgate Zionist right-thinking, dressed in an elegant speech, not hide an anti-Semitism, often incredibly violent.
With the approach of municipal elections, while the Green Voynet, Clementine Autain the anti-globalization and the Socialists in the city hold the sling, we are went to meet him.
All cities are not lucky enough to have a Communist mayor friend of Israel ...
Reinharc-David: You are related to the group of Communist deputies and Republicans and at the same time, Vice-Chairman of the group of friendship between France and Israel and known for your philo: you're not - at least on this issue - at odds with the Communists?
Jean-Pierre Brard: I do not care to be at odds with any particular political party: I am in harmony with my conscience.
Historically, I am very interested in the Holocaust. And Montreuil is a town where the Jewish community - Ashkenazi, progressive, come here following the pogroms - has played a significant role. The work of Jean
Laloum showed that communities of Vincennes, Bagnolet, Montreuil, Jews of Alsace-Lorraine, came here out of patriotism, refusing to live under the boot of Prussia.
But during the German occupation, the Jewish community had great difficulty into hiding because of a strong Yiddish accent ...
detail that had fatal consequences as one hundred to twenty three children were torn from their school to be deported. Sunday, we commemorate the memory of those deported children, accommodated in a house that was run by UGIF (General Union of Jews from France). Without entering the controversy over the role played by UGIF, I wanted to find this part of history disappeared from collective memory.
-DR: Extinct in the collective memory or memory Communist?
-JP. B. : In the communist tradition of the city, there was resistance: political resistance. The other resistance - with the deportation of Jews-was, yes, disappeared from memory.
When John Laloum allowed us to reconnect with the historical truth, we decided each year to mark this painful anniversary. Not on Memorial mode, but in ceremonial the idea of restoring the history - taking into account the reality of anti-Semitism today.
-DR: You've paired the town of Montreuil with the city of Modi'in. a time when some in the far-left, reduce the complexity of the world to a clash of two forces, conspiracy "American Zionism" against Chavez, the evil of Israel against the wretched of the earth, how did you come to outlaw this Manichaeism Primary?
-JP. B. : Thanks to a Jew named Karl Marx. And his main virtue was that it showed that everything has gone wrong in life. The contradiction is an engine for progress. When you have two terms of a contradiction, we must seek ways lead to the dialectical unity greater.
However, in the French tradition, it is considered that a contradiction was resolved when the two terms has been erased.
Zionism, those who speak, do not read a line of Theodore Herzl, do not know the history the Zionist movement or the role played by the Bolshevik Revolution in general and particularly the Bund.
Jews, the Bund - the preparation of the ideas of the Bolshevik Revolution - has played an extremely important role.
not, therefore, be Manichaean: History is more complex than the inclusion of only binary confrontation.
I'm in the dialectic and thus the contradiction.
My position has always been not to add tension here that there is a confrontation there.
Having ongoing relationships built, but never substitute for people on the spot. Do you know
in History a war of humanity which lasts from the beginning of time? It does not exist. Let us ensure that peace arrives as soon as possible.
And I am convinced that peace will only occur if there is a powerful economic development.
The role of the international community is to provide conditions for economic development such that everyone has the means to live by his work.
If we create the economic development, both Jews and Palestinians will find solutions - even if it takes time.
When I met with Shimon Peres, I told him: you're one of three men - with Gorbachev and Nelson Mandela - that I most admire, people who know get out of situations of conflict to build the future.
-DR: As a good Marxist, for you, the economy takes precedence over everything, up to and including the mass psychology.
But do not ignore you, for once, of which myths are central and destructive, like the myth of the return of 1948 refugees to their "lost land" which would endanger the Jewish character of the State of Israel?
-JP. B. : The tragedy is, I do not know.
But history shows that when the plates are full, the tensions are less strong and that dialogue can take the place of confrontation.
must classify the problems and not as an objective set of all at the same time.
start with the problems not the largest but by those we can resolve here and now, to create a climate of trust.
Too much blood has been shed for that overnight, brotherhood replaces confrontation.
Engels said that when we do not find the solution to a problem, it only proves one thing: there has not been able to find the solution.
It requires imagination, commitment and time. Of culture and above all, to understand the perspective of another.
-DR: And also his identity ...
You quoted the Bund but we know the concern of its leaders to then obtain the survival of Jews as a nation, against the wishes of the assimilative and ethnocidal Bolshevik majority, will that satiated so tragic when the liquidation of Yiddish writers in 1952 ...
-JP. B. : I think we must always give precedence to the universal but the universal is true, can not ignore the personal and collective identity.
must remain in the dialectic. Leninist caricature horribly impoverished Marxism.
was told, for example, Marx: Religion is the opium of the people. But the quote is incomplete because it adds is also a way for men to oppose the existing state of things.
Alas, those who exercised power in the name of Marx have always done everything to impoverish the contradiction.
The drama? The Bolshevik Revolution took place in an underdeveloped country and worn by the masses uneducated, fed Leninist official catechism.
I admire the Jewish people as a people culture. For the best of Jewish tradition is there in this knowledge, this knowledge: people without culture are always dangerous people.
Where there is culture there listening to others, free exchange and intellectual excitement necessarily replaces confrontation.
-DR: a long time we believed, in fact, that the progress of morality was associated with the development of culture. Until the Nazis sprayed this illusion: after all, Buchenwald is located just a few miles from Weimar.
The executioners of Auschwitz were educated people: is that, for once, the optimism of the Enlightenment we have not banned?
-JP. B. : I am currently reading a book about the Sonderkommando. The last speech of Rabbi Bayonne, meet people who will die in the next few minutes: it takes about an ultimate dignity in the face of cruelty and bestiality of the SS.
These people had confidence in the future of humanity when they knew they would die.
-DR: The Jews entering the gas chambers filled with hope for humanity?
I find you very optimistic ...
-JP. B. : When making policy, it is better to be optimistic.
Without optimism, you can not imagine solutions to contradictions.
I am convinced that if one prefers the positive, it helps to confine the negative.
But it's true that it is biased.
unbeliever, I am free and I know that everything depends on the individual and society that we train and Human Freedom Total choice of being either a man of humanity or a perfect bastard - as ever it has to be accountable.
For this, we must recognize that social life is more than individualism carried to extremes, which leads to the negation of the other.
-DR: Should we not be inspired, France, America, on the question of the suburbs with this mixture of universalism and respect for differences ?
-JP. B. : It, conversely, anti-French model: every man for himself against solidarity.
communities live side by side but not together side by side in social ghettos, ethnic and religious groups.
There is no universal model, there are values which one is critical: respect for the physical and psychological integrity of each.
If we are given the ultimate terminal, you can not do without interest for each other.
There are over one hundred nationalities in Montreuil and I wanted to respect the separation of religion and public institutions, promote the realization of a synagogue and a mosque. But
we have banned funding from abroad and capping donations.
DR: You are from 2002, vice president of research group on sects in the National Assembly . The isolated man uprooted from his identity will not risk there not being an easy prey for cults?
-JP. B. The city is a place identities and collective social practices. We can have a sense of belonging but locked into a particular community.
In respect of differences, we must look for what brings together and unites.
-DR: In your initiative, the National Assembly passed an amendment that would introduce the teaching of religion in the system education.
How do you explain that religion, far from being a obscurantism overtaken by science and the triumph of reason, has become a typically modern way to meet the challenges of the modern world?
-JP. B. : Our responsibility is to ensure that people are not deprived of their religious belief
People who fit into our republican system of separation, are in their particular faith roots of social engagement in civic life. Without showing their religious affiliation.
That's why I'm against that school trips are accompanied by people who display conspicuous signs of their membership.
-DR: You're not a parade of Republican chador but justice has given you wrong ...
-JP. B. : The court gave me wrong - six months after the march was banned, but I'm right.
In this case, administrative justice has strayed.
-DR: Questioned as head of the Working Group on secularism and a member of the mission on the issue of wearing religious symbols in an interview with Le Figaro, you say that the authorities minimize the problem of port the veil. Why
complacency towards the islamoprogressisme that affects a part of the French Left?
-JP. B. Why did not I supported Bove? Because he argued Tariq Ramadan, the man who does not condemn the stoning of women. I find it obscene.
The right has no monopoly on anti-Semitism.
At the time of the Dreyfus affair, the Committee for Jewish workers from Paris addressed the Socialist Party in asking: we are workers, why confuse us with the Jewish bankers?
Because watersheds do not pass between ethnic or religious affiliations but between dominants and subordinates.
There are two left: Jaures, unlike Jules Guesde, defending defended Captain Dreyfus - through man-Jewish man. It was part
, therefore, in the tradition of the French Revolution who recognized the citizenship to Jews, equality of others.
In this regard, I want to talk about the case Abitbol, Montreuil - this woman, Jewish Algerian, who needs to renew his identity card and who is asked a religious marriage certificate, because of its Jewish-sounding name!
I recall that celebrate a religious marriage before a civil marriage is a crime that can lead to jail the man of religion who would lend itself to that. In a state that does not recognize religious marriage, we ask for a religious marriage certificate to prove parentage.
I am interested in Cremieux Decree: The Second Empire had recognized the equal citizenship to all Algerians. The Third Republic by saying that Jews were a special case, sought, in fact, to withdraw the citizenship of Muslims.
In my meeting with Minister of Justice, Madame Rachida Dati, I discussed this matter and she was very attentive.
Moreover, the government recently asked the CNIL authorization to ethnic files. Concerned, I ask: when a file Jew?
-DR: Senator Voynet you called it "a true Stalinist" and "autocrat".
Would not it just a conniving ente environmentalism that this fear as a positive passion - fear of sex, alcohol, tobacco, GMO, the greenhouse effect, chicken, globalization, etc. .- with the exaltation of the purity of dangerous Nazis?
-JP. B. : Absolutely, you're absolutely right. In
Nazis, there is a primitive nature worship and the rejection of what is rational knowledge.
There are, yes, with some environmentalists, the same way, a kind of cult status in nature. The
racial purity, purity of nature: from the Nazis, must be removed from nature that the pit, ie the Jews ....
-DR: Michel Foucault said: "Until now, we wondered if the revolution was possible. Today, the question is: Is this desirable? And the answer is no ... "Do you agree?
-JP. B. : It is true that the great revolutions have always ended up eating their children. The idea of
new man is a criminal idea.
Never harm the physical or psychological integrity of a man is the ultimate limit that we have to give ...
Then there is always a utopian spark continued to shine and that is worth being saved.
interview published in Israel Magazine No. 84
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