Interview by David Reinharc
Ivan Rioufol is not just the talented author's Notes Figaro, nor the essayist subversive Republic false nice.
While some scholars have shown a culpable blindness, he is among those who refuse to compromise on the affirmation of our values in the game international.Le philosopher Alain used to say: "In fact the experience rains on everyone. All are equally wet but not also educated. "
Ivan Rioufol denounces the balance of cowardice while small than others, complacent audiences, expect a new flood.
Reinharc David: Author notebook Figaro , you play for many an oasis of common sense in the desert of self-righteousness. You consider yourself a maverick?
Ivan Rioufol: Dissident not. The risks that I take have nothing to do, until now anyway, with those that took the dissidents from totalitarian regimes. Perhaps, a tough, since I try to operate in space freedom given to me - the notebook's Figaro - an exercise of free discussion which often falls backward ideas are made or imposed. This exercise requires overruling the intimidation and intellectual terrorism, trying to exclude you from the small media world and go sour. My strength is in fact, faced with giving lessons to try to break the code of silence that prevents describe the phenomena of change in society that are profoundly changing his identity and to question its future. I also try to be the spokesman of thought which I feel close and does not find expression in the media.
David Reinharc: Western civilization has ennobled the material values that do not always follow the spiritual. This denial is unlikely he not cause the decline of Judeo-Christian civilization in general and the small nation of Israel in particular?
Ivan Rioufol: We are a company from oblivion. We have become indifferent to our culture and our Judeo-Christian past. " The roots of Europe are as much Muslim as Christian "Jacques Chirac has been said, indicating the extent of the neglect of history. We are becoming a people amnesiac, presumably because of a secular fundamentalism that has rendered suspect any religious reference, and because of a Marxist view of the world - yet rooted in the French intellectual milieu - which considers secondary morals, cultures, beliefs. The Judeo-Christian France has become unreadable because its culture is not transmitted. Without biblical references, how to understand the meaning of a window, a porch of a cathedral, A Mass of Bach, a sacred painting?
We are a crossroads. Two types of society are offered: or this mixed society, multicultural, no past, no homogeneous culture-compost of a possible civil war - or I defend this return to common values and shared identity, brought by a nation state, Israel embodied many. Currently, the dominant discourse does find merit to the company " rainbow sky ", where all cultures are equal. Now the people of Israel, with its respect for books, knowledge and transmission, we demonstrate daily the power he draws from his nation, while the multiethnic state of Lebanon balkanized tears in our eyes. Between the two solutions, I have no hesitation.
David Reinharc: you think the Judeo-Christian values they are superior to other values?
Ivan Rioufol: Muslim culture which is believed to be superior to others, because the Koran says. The Judeo-Christian and Greco-Roman are those of modernity, and the facts speak for themselves. If the Muslim world stagnated, the West has nothing to do and did not apologize. So is there no shame in wanting to protect these values, especially as the Muslim world does not bother to enforce its own culture, including in countries that host them.
I find these displaced feelings of guilt and shame that inhabit many Western elites, who are racist to defend the West and its culture. The
France disappear, if it still does not dare to impose its laws, language and lifestyle. France must learn to escape his clutches and stop being good girl explained essentially Elie Barnavi, and I share that vision proactive. It should only take care not to fall into the trap of nationalism and xenophobia.
Globalisation and its inevitable large mixing forced to rethink national identity, bearing in mind that people are attached to their identity and their origin. I do not believe in the occurrence of the New Man, this citizen of the world would be rich in uprooting. Just observe what is happening in France, where ethnic and religious separatism is growing, with phenomena of substitution of population in some departments. If you plan these phenomena in several generations, you can imagine the worst. Kosovo's fate comes to mind when one thinks of the Seine-Saint-Denis at the end of this century.
I personally believe that France should impose an act of allegiance to those who wish to share his fate, asking them to commit to a number of non-negotiable values: democracy, separation of temporal and spiritual, the respect for women, freedom of opinion, etc..
David Reinharc: in Europe or Israel, the school by refusing to assume his mission to learn the fundamentals of the Jewish culture or European, she keeps seeing the beauty of the world?
Ivan Rioufol: In France, school is the first symptom of this lack of interest in culture and history. It contributes to weakening of the minds, educated in the idea that they owe nothing to knowledge and they only flourish in spontaneity. In this view, is that the artist claims to be. We must rethink all the basic school, starting with the learning of Beauty and Ugliness. Currently, National Education is looking more and more to the description that Umberto Eco had Education totalitarian, when he noticed that the Nazi or fascist texts were based on a poor vocabulary and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the reasoning and critical thinking.
David Reinharc: Nicolas Sarkozy wants to rethink the Arab policy of France. That's fine but his proposed Mediterranean Union does not risk not making Europe a new caliphate - because it offers freedom of movement of people between countries bordering the Mediterranean and Europe?
Ivan Rioufol: This project seems very inaccurate. If we follow the explanation given by Nicolas Sarkozy, he intends to do with the future Mediterranean Union which was made with the European Union, that is to say a huge market of free movement of people and goods. However, France is facing an immigration problem Maghreb and African which poses serious problems of integration, some of these new people do not recognize themselves in France and its culture. While the tub overflows, and that many people agree to recognize, it is clear that not only does it comes to anyone to turn off the taps, but we may open more.
David Reinharc: What explains this propensity of the West to break with his friends - America, Israel, the "old Europe" - and make peace with his enemies?
Ivan Rioufol: Jacques Ellul had noticed that the West brings with it a guilty conscience for having been the main civilizing force in history. Self-hatred, indifference to its past its culture, a fascination for the culture of others, self flogging can doubtless be explained by this state of mind. Added to this the state of political subjugation well described by Bat Ye'or, who pushed Europe to the second half of the twentieth century to deny its history and its allies to buy American and Israeli security, including oil. Unfortunately, the France of the Enlightenment has not been conspicuous by his courage in defending freedom of expression, in the case of the Mohammed cartoons, or that of Regensburg in the Redeker affair. By dint of submission, we may have war and dishonor.
David Reinharc: While in Europe, the white man's self-flagellation on the register of repentance colonial, Israel, post-Zionist spend their time beating their breasts , gentle for once an opponent of that fact will be stronger tomorrow. Is not this the paradox of democracy: making more difficult the emergence of civic virtue upon which its survival yet?
Ivan Rioufol: This is suicidal masochism. By falling into relativism, we forget who we are and how our Judeo-Christian culture is liberating and fragile at once. Like it or not, Western culture has produced a benefit art, literary, scientific, humanitarian, social progress, that the Muslim culture, which suffers from a lack of intellectual curiosity. But the Muslim culture, which for now has not shown that it can be soluble in modernity, is carried by a faith that removes everything in its path, helping the jihad. It is disturbing to see how Islam imperious bully the West ill at ease, fearing more than anything in the trial "Islamophobia."
David Reinharc: In the West, it is better to be wrong than right with Hamas with Israel ...
Ivan Rioufol: Probably. But I really believe in the awakening of public opinion. "We would not try France by its elites, is the remake by the base " wrote Georges Bernanos. It may well be right again. If clarity is not the virtue best shared by the elites, she lives the people who knows the difference between the bombers and civilian victims. Compassionate speeches our fake nice not enough to excuse the terrorists supposedly humiliated. I think the public perception of a dress rehearsal takes place Israel democracy faces, or almost alone, in a war against Islamism, the totalitarian threat to Europe, having sworn her disappearance. The third world war, declared to the world September 11, 2001, may very well be lost by a West divided and unable to appoint its own enemies. Therefore, the priority is to strengthen the ranks of the free world.
David Reinharc: Depending on your Notepad, you feel an angry man against the "useful idiots"-happy fools deafening worthless-who do not come the Apocalypse: war, time passing, the end of everything .. . But behind the illusions of truth, is what ultimately modernity does not quite dedicated to the tragedy of forgetfulness?
Ivan Rioufol: I am nostalgic (a word forbidden by the self-righteousness) of the past beauty, civility and manners, "the French spirit." At the same time, I remain open and I oppose this culture pioneer to which modernianisme - Charles Peguy had foreseen-turned hellish.
interview published in Israel Magazine No. 79
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